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You reported on ami and david packer. what is that relationship between trump world and that publication? >> well, it's been very close. in fact, several months ago when several of my colleagues were zooming in on michael cohen and some of the things he has done related to ami trump during the campaign, ami released a statement acknowledging owning the close personal relationship that david packer, the head of ami had not just with trump, but also cohen. >> that's what is so crazy about this. it's not just trump. michael cohen knows pecker and has been involved in some of these sort of what's ...

With a huge amount on the line here. if the senate intel committee or robert mueller find evidence that counters the house's findings, what on earth does it signal for the committee's credibility and for these guys? >> i don't think this committee is worried about being embarrassed or worried about their credibility being destroyed. just look at the history. a year ago devin nunes came out with his unmasking claim, that very quickly fell apart. earlier this year in january they released their memo targeting the fbi over the fisa warrant application regarding carter page. that quickly fell apar...

Space. nunes has made it very clear he is off looking at the state department now. going to try to find some way to show that allies of clinton were somehow colluding with the russian there's. another claim we didn't touch on that this claim makes is it was the clinton campaign with the russians to elect, i don't know, elect donald trump i guess. they're not done. if this committee keeps kind of running interference for the president and his legal team, which i think they are, adam schiff and the democrats on this committee are going to have to keep pointing out when the facts don't add up. >>...

But then, their work is not done. because the committee, just because it stopped this investigation, i don't think we should conclude that they're done messing around in this space. nunes has made it very clear he is off looking at the state department now. going to try to find some way to show that allies of clinton were somehow colluding with the russian there's. another claim we didn't touch on that this claim makes is it was the clinton campaign with the russians to elect, i don't know, elect donald trump i guess. they're not done. if this committee keeps kind of running interference for t...

Understood where he was coming from, as long as he understood that i knew where he was coming from. but i don't believe putin at all. if they did meddle, he was responsible for it. >> what do you make of that? >> well, vice president biden is absolutely correct. you can't take vladimir putin at his word. especially when he denies something that happened in broad daylight. and i think the country, in some ways, because of what we're being told by this administration and this president, is at times struggling to see what is right in front of our face, which is that russia did meddle in our elect...