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>> rev, joe points out the primary problem which is the base is shrinking. but within that minority party loves this rhetoric and it speaks to them in certain ways. that's where they live and breathe. but another huge problem is what you're pointing out in that segment which is the entertainment complex of the right wing. drives a lot of their policy thinking and a lot of their political maneuvers. they also speak to that same sort of minority within the minority party of the republican party. that's invested in these racialized discourses. the president doesn't have time for that and doesn't ...

He realizes that the way to get fund-raising attention, support is by making noise. if chris christie is being talked about as the front runner, then the way you get attention is by attacking chris christie. >> i think it's been very effective for paul in many ways and it's allowed him to separate himself from the rest of the tea party wing. >> one thing rand paul is focused on is conservative media and trying to build a profile there among the rush limbaughs of the world and that's a strategy we saw mitt romney try to employ with some varying degrees of success. but christie is sort of hated ...

Listening to the bushs. are we really going to go down the jeb bush road now? is that where we're going to we went down the george h.w. road and now the jeb bush road? >> isn't this the problem, that the rush limbaughs and the glenn becks, they attack any voices in the party that advises restraint. >> it is part of the problem. you know, they have this authenticity litmus test. they love to refer to these republicans as rhinos. republicans in name only. sadly, there's not really any place in the republican party right now for jeb bush. you know, a pro-immigration, almost moderate bush brand na...

I don't think he necessarily believes in that. i don't necessarily believe in ted cruz, but i do think he's been a very disruptive and interesting figure in the political scene. >> you know, i think, mr. moran, i think about the thing he's holding and i use the reference about strapping dynamite to yourself. he's offering a real threat to our american political system. he is threatening to the extent he's able to do it -- we don't think he's going to pull it off -- but he's threatening to stop the u.s. government in its tracks until he gets what he wants. the destruction of the president's lan...

My prom date in high school was a white woman. she was very white, actually. she used to ride horses and do that whole thing. obviously very deep -- i have very deep roots in the white community that this isn't hatred for whites. this is just tough love. i felt it was time that somebody told the truth to these people. it's a hard conversation, but it's one we need to have. >> i'm glad we're having it. my question to you, cord, what is it going to take to get the white power structure, prominent rights, hillary clinton, joe biden to speak out on this type of thing? to start talking about the st...