MSNBC Morning Joe June 2, 2021 11:18:00
The problem we have is that the east ward expansion of nato in effect was never completed. we left a gray zone between nato's eastern border and russia's western border. belarus,r. ukraine, moldova aren one part of it. azerbaijan, armenia, georgia are in another part. thiser guarantees instability. it guarantees russian adventurism in that gray zone and i think you have to remember what putin said back in fwooif, his view is that the collapse of the soviet union was the greatestni geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century. he wants to fix that. that's not in our interest to let him do that....
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