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Going to be -- >> tariffs that lead to lower tariffs or whatever, lower trade barriers are the goal. the danger with doing it the way we're doing and i got your point about the danger of negotiating and not get anywhere. the danger of doing it this way is the possibility of a trade war. 37% of americans are worried about a trade war. we're in a trade war so to speak. but the point that it could be a much more serious matter over time to come. >> right. although i will say that i think most americans are willing to give the tariffs a chance. and you've heard this articulated by even speaker rya...

Pressure that ryan needed in order to say, fine. i will take on the role of house speaker. he just didn't want it because as you've been talking about with our colleagues this morning, he is a policy wonk. he had a job that he loved that fills that desire which was the house ways and means chair. he was in charge of the tax writing committee. so there's that and the other thing that you mentioned and it bears underscoring, paul ryan was one of the last, if not the last major republican to reluctantly get onboard with donald trump. he never campaigned with trump when he was -- when trump was ru...

And i just -- i'm really skeptical that that is what gets you elected, the nominee of a major party. you can't just waltz into a party and carry the day. eventually that's what will catch up with him. >> can i quote jeb bush? >> absolutely. >> just to interrupt agree, ryan again, by the way -- >> hurry up, lanny. >> jeb bush said you can't insult your way to the presidency. his act is going to wear thing because all he has is bile against everyone and he keyed lead one of the great countries of the world with vicious -- >> i'm out of time, guys. thank you very much. >> thanks. >> thank you, do...