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Now the president's new budget proposal getting a full hearing today by the house ways and means committee. even before lawmakers get through witness the president's plan is facing a lot of heavy fire. "washington post" columnist robert samuelson says today in an, quote, there is something profoundly timid about president obama's proposed $3.8 trillion budget for 2014. the budget is a status quo document. it let's existing trends and policies run their course. this is not liberal, or conservative, so much as politicallied peed kwrepbt. rich lowry is editor of the national review, joined by sal...

With mr. newsom because mr. newsom had just started the same-sex marriage process, with what appeared at that time to be legal authority. mr. obama, in the thoughtful election, he's evolved and gotten there to where now it clearly is the most significant change most of us have seen in the last six, seven, eight or nine years. >> now, jonathan, you jump in here on the other three. we're looking at gun control, some sort of grand bargain on the economy, with fiscal policy and taxes and spending thrown in, and we're looking for my standard -- maybe i'm tougher than most people on the liberal side...

Whoa, hold on here, this is not necessarily good for our most vulnerable republicans. that's his job. >> i got you. to recap on this, what happened the other day the president said in his budget one of the ways we have to save money, get the debt down is deal with this cpi the way we adjust social security and other payments by the government and change the formula so it doesn't go up so much every year. he'd argue it's an accurate account of how much inflation there really is. here's the republican congressman from oregon, who chairs the committee. keep going. for re-election of all the house...

Is that we have a long-term plan to deal with our entitlement spending and then also keep the economy growing by not imposing higher taxes on companies and small businesses and job creators. i think what the president is doing with this cpi thing, which i personally support, but it's -- >> you're reasonable. >> but it's also a dangerous trap. if the democrats -- the problem for greg walden is democrats are not going to say, hey, i support this. what they're going to do is oppose it and then if republicans support it they're going to run against republicans on that issue. so greg walden who's h...

About it, and i expect it to -- this is the least we must do to begin the solve the problems in social security. >> so john feehery, is this -- i mean, that's the rational approach. by the way, scarborough is rational there, too. it seems to me what your party is going to do here, i want michael to jump in here and challenge you. if all your party is going to do is like they're in a cafeteria, say, i like this part of the president's proposal getting tough on social security recipients and medicare, trying to save some money there, but we're not going to go after anybody with any money. we're ...