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Ago, with a democratic house and a democratic senate did two years ago, is exactly what we should do now to start with. it's the president who is threatening to raise taxes on the middle class if he doesn't stamp his feet and get his way. he needs to get into a room with cameras there and negotiate. that was all show and no economics. have it in front of cspan cameras. if the republicans are reasonable, we'll see that. if not, we'll see that. have cameras there. >> congressman van hollen, you have speaker boehner saying this morning to fox, we are nowhere. this was an unserious proposal. is it...

Tax increases we want, but we'll be vague when it comes to stuff that's hard for our side, which is medicare. >> that's a misperception. we propossessed $600 billion in savings. people can take a careful look at them. what we haven't seen from the republicans is a plan to raise rates and revenues. they said they are prepared to raise revenues. but they haven't said how, how much, or who should pay, and haven't proposed what they need on the spending side. we can't figure out what they need. they have to tell us. and then we have to look at it and see if it makes sense for the american people. ...

But they haven't told us anything about how far rates should go up, how far revenues should go up, who should pay higher taxes. >> republicans have said that no republicans will vote for a tax rate increase. do you think they are just bluffing? >> i can't tell you what they are likely to do. all i can tell you is what we think makes the most sense for the american people. and we spend a lot of time talking to the business community, small business and large businesses, the last few weeks or so. the president has done that. and i think there's very broad-based support for the type of plan we've...

Gregory. and good sunday morning. amidst a lot of partisan rhetoric on both sides, talks on the fiscal cliff are now at a stand still, and the president is back on the campaign trail of sorts. this time to try to win in a court of public opinion for his plan to avert an automatic tax hike for everyone on january 1. that's where we'll start this morning with the point man on the negotiations for all of this. the secretary of treasury, tim geithner. and our roundtable is also here. standing by for reaction, including the man behind the republican pledge not to raise taxes at all, not to raise ...

Said in this past week, quote, no republican will vote for higher tax rates. will you? >> well, the negotiations are between the president and speaker boehner. and they will get into the details of that. i think you know i've laid out a plan that has $1 trillion in revenues, coupled with real entitlement reforms. >> but higher tax rates. you heard treasury secretary geithner. they are going to force this issue and say to republicans, it's over. the tax fight is over. rates have to go up. the president won re-election. he made this argument. the american people are behind him. that's what they ...