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Romney said, man, it's not easy raising five boys and barack said you should try raising two girls and they laughed laughed same time they said, what i'd like to switch places and just like that. >> funny stuff, we love a good joke, of course. mitt romney, well, he tried to get away with the actual debate. it wasn't too funny. and i said it would cause him problems. >> no doubt, maitt romney was a his best tonight but it's not good enough. when you take what he said tonight and compare it to his proposals, to what he has said, to what he's represented, to the ryan plan, it does not match what ...

What he has represented, to the ryan plan, it does not match what he said tonight. so how are we going to be impressed with someone that made a very passionate and a very articulate series of lies tonight. >> he didn't make a case for his record, but he made a case for being president despite his record. >> and every time someone said, when tt president said you would do this, he would say no, i wouldn't. but we've got video that you would. and when somebody brought up something popular, yes, i would do that. but that's against what you and your party has represented. so i'm not going to set u...

Romney is proposing. you don't need a phd to know that's the factual implication from what he's talking about. >> but see, that's my point. i agree that it's going to be two or three days before we get the verdict. so i would suggest to the court that he made a good testimony, but he will be indicted for perjury, because he's lying. when you take what he said tonight and compare it to his proposals to what he said, to what he has represented, to the ryan plan, it does not match what he said tonight. so how are we going to be impressed with someone that made a very passionate and a very articul...

The gdp as you see here. and what it does is it squeezes out everything else. defense, infrastructure, all kinds of other programs. there's green line going from there down to there. and the last point, the social security, which we do talk about and is important, which is the blue line, you can see only goes up slightly. social security's not the problem, the problem's medicare. and with or without obama plan or ryan plan, it's going to continue to eat up resources. >> on romney's plan, doesn't he have a cap? that is to say a voucher, he won't tell us the level the voucher is? >> not exactly,...

Soon, they are less favorable to a ryan-style plan that would eventually turn it into a voucher program, than other younger voters might be. and general people don't seem to favor changing the medicare program. it seems to be working, especially for people who have it now. but especially when you get to some of the older voters, it's just very interesting. and dante alluded to this. after all the time that romney has spent in the state and spent next door to the state, that he hasn't been able to gain anymore of an edge, even on an issue like medicare, where you would think that an electorate ...