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These things matter. they're going to have to do it together. but the ryan proposal is a setback for that, because it doesn't ask rich people to pay more after they've gotten now three tax cuts, each of which were nearly a trillion dollars. they say we're going to give you more tax cuts. we just did a poll, cnn, 85% of the american people say we ought to keep medicare where it is or increase it. 85%. so telling people we're going to abolish medicare -- >> i want to bring in tom forman. tom, give us a look at this ryan proposal and what we're talking about. >> this is a very broad brush, anders...

Anderson, as all of our guests know. there are a lot of details in this. medicare, yes, this is a big, big deal in here. they're talking about a voucher system for private insurance for all of these elderly americans where basically told get money from the government and buy their own insurance. there are some people who would say it is simply changing the nature of medicare. medicaid, they want to change that to block grants to the states, basically that's the care off for disabled people and people who don't have a whole lot of money. they want the states to take over that. there's a provisi...

They're going to have to do it together. but the ryan proposal is a setback for that, because it doesn't ask rich people to pay more after they've gotten now three tax cuts, each of which were nearly a trillion dollars. they say we're going to give you more tax cuts. we just did a poll, cnn, 85% of the american people say we ought to keep medicare where it is or increase it. 85%. so telling people we're going to abolish medicare -- >> i want to bring in tom forman. tom, give us a look at this ryan proposal and what we're talking about. >> this is a very broad brush, anderson, as all of our gue...

They're talking about a voucher system for private insurance for all of these elderly americans where basically told get money from the government and buy their own insurance. there are some people who would say it is simply changing the nature of medicare. medicaid, they want to change that to block grants to the states, basically that's the care off for disabled people and people who don't have a whole lot of money. they want the states to take over that. there's a provision to lower the top tax rates to 25% and end a lot of deductions. there are a lot of provisions in it. one thing about th...

Staff for the house speaker. those relationships matter. now i think harry reid believes that john boehner is somebody that he can deal with. these things matter. they're going to have to do it together. but the ryan proposal is a setback for that, because it doesn't ask rich people to pay more after they've gotten now three tax cuts, each of which were nearly a trillion dollars. they say we're going to give you more tax cuts. we just did a poll, cnn, 85% of the american people say we ought to keep medicare where it is or increase it. 85%. so telling people we're going to abolish medicare -- >...