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Ban, but the sticking point isn't the semantics but the rollout. here is what speaker of the house paul ryan said. >> i think there was regrettable to see some confusion, nobody wanted to see people with green cards get caught up with all of this, so it was confusing but going forward i'm confident that secretary is going to make sure they get a good review, and get this program up and running with the kind of standards we all want to see. >> resa, it is so nice to have you on and we played speaker ryan talking about the messy rollout, what do you think? >> well with all due respect it's just ...

>> the first step to a stronger medicare is to repeal obama care because it represents the worst of both worlds. i had a feeling there would be mixed reaction, so let me get into it. >> i don't know if that's a mixed reaction so much as a negative one. how's this for a mixed reaction? that's ryan talking, and these are all the people walking out of his speech. they're voting with their feet. here's a hint. they are not winning on medicare. they're losing on it. in key states, president obama leads on the issue by six points, and that includes florida. surprise, surprise, americans don't like t...

The president's plans for health care and medicare with the romney/ryan plans. of course iowa has one of the highest senior populations in the country. let's listen for a little bit here. >> handed a bill for a trillion dollars that year, the debt that was inherited and the economic recession kicked in. they didn't tell you any of that. but what they really didn't tell you, is again, they're not on the level about this debt. let me explain what i mean by that. there were a number -- you may remember reading the paper, the president put me in charge of negotiating a debt agreement with the repu...

we're talking about on wealthy americans. some of the taxes we have talked about before, limiting those itemized deductions that the wealthy take. closing loopholes on hedge fund managers, oil and gas companies, corporate jet owners and also letting the bush era tax cuts for the wealthiest americans expire when they are set to. also a little more than $1 trillion in war savings. of course, we do know that the wars in afghanistan and iraq are already going to be winding down. and that's something that republicans are hitting on. and frequently both sides have used this when they do th...

Sincere at all. >> frankly, a lot of people around me get the feeling that these folks will say anything to just get elected. >> that's the real reaction ryan got when he pushed his medicare plan to seniors at the aarp back in september. in fact, they even walked out on him. see, that's ryan talking. and those are folks voting with their feet. ryan's policies have been rejected again and again. isn't it about time he and the republicans got the message and found the new plan with some fairness in it? joining me now, thank you both for coming on the show. >> thank you, reverend. >> let's start ...