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Dispute that. his the six-month mark friday. obamacare will be the law of the land on friday. tax reform is nowhere in the legislative process. they is committee hearings but different disagreements between the white house approach and speaker ryan's approach. infrastructure another big president's priority. maybe not for other members of the republican party, certainly for president trump, it is nowhere. there's big questions whether he'll get the money for his wall. back to that. the trump agenda and republican agenda not always the same thing. neither one of them big picture items moving fo...

Are to programs for the poor. and you see it in places like medicaid. the cuts to medicaid and other health programs is pretty much all subsidies for health care for low income americans. those are twice as large. twice as large as the cuts to medicare. and it's a smaller set of programs. so he has really focused his cuts not just on the poor but on basic government agencies. if you're going to cut taxes, you're not really going to hit seniors and raise defense spending. the only other major thing the government does is spend money on the poor. it's not really another option of him for where t...

Just take care of the poor, but infrastructure, education, r&d, a lot of these investments. not to get too far down in the weeds, but it is discretionary domestic spending. so there's a small part of the pie they are hacking away at because they don't want to touch the big ticket items, medicare, medicaid. and as ezra said, both paul ryan and the president pick the same approach on medicare as far as the pure numbers go, growth of gdp plus half a percentage point. on other side, you have president obama talking about taxes and democrats talking about raising taxes on the rich, raising taxes on...

>> i don't disagree with that at all. which approach, though, do you think is going to be more politically effective, given the election? >> i think it depends on how the message is shaped. >> it seems to me the president has a more successful message. >> i think it's too early to say that. i have seen some democrats be able to win suburban women by talking about how republicans are going to be too mean on the poor. but then again, if the republicans are able to paint barack obama and democrats as tax and spend liberals, then they win the day. >> see, i think the reason the ryan budget is such...

Congressman ryan on his mind. i wondered if -- obviously paul ryan has the budget out for the republicans, but i wondered if ryan is getting under his skin? >> i think paul ryan is in his brain. this started at the blair house where they had the first occasion to be in contact with each other in 2010 that's where the president had his lunch eaten by ryan who took apart the bill and demonstrated it was going to add to the deficiency. ryan is a meticulous, thoughtful, articulate, deeply informed and passionate advocate and president obama is clearly not been in touch with -- in january he said i...