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Spectrum, progressive caucus budget which would increase that spending by nearly 28%. you may expect that murray's center left democratic budget would fall somewhere around halfway between the two where you would see the red line or slightly towards the progressive end of the spectrum. look at where it falls. murray budget, which cuts a little less than 1% of nondefense discretionary funding, falls not halfway but closer to the rye plan. same true of other mandatory spending which includes aid for the poor and unemployed. ryan plan would cut those programs by 16%, progressive's budget would in...

Social security is next for them. you know, alan west and paul ryan devise ad plan here that is balancing the budget, his new budget, on the backs of seniors, on veterans, children, and the middle class. it is not right and they are scared. >> now, you put out your first ad against mr. west and you really dealt with medicare in that first ad and west is one of the extreme right wing -- let me show you that ad. >> it is kind of amazing what comes out of allen west's mouth. >> do you support medicare the way it is now then kiss the united states of america good-bye. >> even worse is how he voted...

It is no wonder romney and ryan aren't talking about that plan. no wonder they talked about talking about anything of substance opinion it is too tough to sell. they are resorting to distortion, putting out false ads that claim president is taking the work requirement out of welfare. let's be honest. that strategy is not inspiring. and voters aren't inspired either. the new nbc poll shows that 54% of americans say that the ryan pick has no effect on their vote. so much for the ryan bounce. joining me now is senator sherrod brown, democrat from ohio. senator, thanks for coming on the show tonig...

Republicans when you went into the 2008 general election, it made mccain very -- much harder for him to win hispanic voters and that's going play out again in 2012. had is something we have seen from romney before. >> thanks to both of you for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> thank you so much. >> coming up, the 93-year-old face of the fight for voter rights has her i.d. but what about the others in pep pen without voice? governor corbett is not playing nice with the department of justice. but first, the romney team has been pretty quiet about their plan. president obama is exposing them to...

Convention. seems contradictory, doesn't it? >> it certainly does. and -- what is scary is the fact that they are lying. you know, allen west put an ad out saying that i'm supporting a plan that is cutting medicare by $700 billion. that's not the fact. it is scary what they are able to get away with. we have to get the facts straight and hold them accountable for their words. >> let me hold you there. the facts are you said that you are not supporting a plan that takes $700 million out of medicare. this is what they charged president obama with. explain to us what the $700 billion that the pre...