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They were happy to take them. and so, yeah, trump's rhetoric and other republicans rhetoric is a problem. the conspiracy theory that leads people like pelosi's attacker to act on these crazed ideas are the deeper issue. >> and i think you could draw a straight line from charlottesville to january 6, to the attack on paul pelosi in that political violence, there was not good people on both sides. >> no. >> the violence has been normalized, mainstreamed, and to what you were saying, s.e., it is okay, it is okay if we laugh and call her an animal. and that is -- i agree with you. the republican p...

That flame and mocking any violence that happens. that has to stop. >> s.e., donald trump dehumanizes people he doesn't like. and i guess at this point we have to assume he doesn't care that it leads to violence. >> you know, and he does it especially with women. there is a trigger for him, women would don't like him or disagree with him, he gets vicious about their looks or their humanity or their dignity. i think the rhetoric is partly to blame. but to me the most dangerous part, nancy pelosi alluded to it just there, are these conspiracy theories. they're garbage and they are a mind alterin...

How conservative she is. and they will not. >> they need to stand behind. and then they got behind. so, if you saw that, you begin by doing things like that. aligning yourself with both democrats. because if you are still think, about it you're going to be allies on this side of the aisle to say no she's not one of the crazies. and this is one ways you do. it i don't think they're doing that does that reason. >> i'm skeptical of. that >> but that is a really smart strategy. >> the first time i've ever said this back to you, i think you're being too cynical i. i think it's not like you. i think...

On something you said, john. the wall, that's interesting. it's interesting to think about how you might have to finish trump's wall. because it's been demonized, as you, know by the democrats, who at one time actually, decades ago, thought that might be a solution. >> -- democrats -- more money for border security, for sure. but if you want good faith, comprehensive immigration reform, you are going to have to give something to republicans that gives them cover. >> 25 billion dollars in security that we were giving! >> the symbolism of the wall is powerful to some folks, find. the -- stop dem...

Idea of wokeism, so to speak, is, and trying to use these statements, these lightning rods to have a supplemental message sent, plays time and time and time again. alisyn, when you think about where we are right now, and we are six days away. frankly, a week from tomorrow is when we will really know a lot more, right? >> maybe. >> the day after the election, maybe thursday, maybe tgif, who knows? all we know is is a week or so away. we could chase, it is not a good way to think about it? >> yes, yes, but i would say everybody is gonna have to settle in and get comfortable. because it's possibl...