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>> yeah. mark: it's my observation that the level of reporting has really been degraded. it's difficult to tell reporters from commentators. it's difficult to tell reporters from hollywood actors. >> yeah. mark: lot of the time. it doesn't really serve the american people, does it? >> well, journalism ought to be something that is done agnostcally, that you don't know what a reporter thinks. if a reporter puts himself or herself into the story, that's no longer journalism. that's commentary, that's editorialism, and most of what we see, 90% of it has a tinge of being editorial content. i tell ...

>> yeah. mark: it's my observation that the level of reporting has really been degraded. it's difficult to tell reporters from commentators. it's difficult to tell reporters from hollywood actors. >> yeah. mark: lot of the time. it doesn't really serve the american people, does it? >> well, journalism ought to be something that is done agnostcally, that you don't know what a reporter thinks. if a reporter puts himself or herself into the story, that's no longer journalism. that's commentary, that's editorialism, and most of what we see, 90% of it has a tinge of being editorial content. i tell ...