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International criminal court and making sure, of course, that it's not just individuals, but also the country that faces these charges, michael. >> yeah, the challenge always is proving it up the line, up the chain of command, how high can they find culpability. and that's always a different thing. but it is an important conversation. fascinating interview. 's sack, thank you so much. we'll check in with you next hour. thanks a lot. all right. we will now show you the war in ukraine from an entirely different perspective. it involves a ground battle recorded in realtime by a russian military...
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