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A nuclear state but we lifted the sanctions and work with the pakistanis on a number of issues, and come the 9/11 attacks, we decided it was more important to get pakistan's help on counterterrorism than worry about the nuclear weapons, and kim jong-un looked at that and said there's the model for me, they have done it before. i think he is testing that proposition. it's very possible it may work because at this point they have got somewhere between 20 and 60 weapons, and the fuel to make anymore. >> very quickly. how close is the second u.s. north korea summit? it is a phone call away? could ...

Can't figure that out, how do you come to a resolution. i think we are almost to the point where it could be a topiary. if you don't know what it is, how do you come to a solution? >> nancy pelosi, if she goes to the white house today, she has a day together. tomorrow she has power, and tomorrow they are setting that a series of votes where the house will approve what is already voted on, and we take yes, mitch mcconnell, and how are you going to handle this? and from what we are told, mitch mcconnell will say, never mind, i am not going to support the legislation in the senate a few weeks ago...

With the north and basically said let's not push them too hard and let's begin to lift sanctions. with president trump, he would end up losing a lot of his leverage. some of his former aides think and have said, he may do it anyway because he is so eager to put together a deal with the north as his diplomatic accomplishment. >> the deal from kim jong-un's stand-point seems to be accept the fact that we have nuclear weapons, we won't produce anymore or build any more, but you have to acknowledge or be content to contain us for what we have already? >> john, they want to be pakistan. for years t...

Down payment and we call it a day? >> well, it doesn't seem like it's so easy thus far. i do think the biggest leverage the president has, other than if he had some opinion against democrats, and nancy pelosi and the house democrats did have an entire plan of legislative priorities, and as long as the shutdown remains in place. they may think they can win on that path for a while, but at some point when you are in governing, you want to show that you are doing something that actually makes a change, and at some point they will want to get to their narrative. i don't think before they take powe...

Defined himself very early in his senate career, in his opposition to the president, and more people are going to be looking to him every time there's a flash point of debate here in washington. >> will ritter of the hot cup of jealousy, it's something a confused mid level super villain will say in austin powers, but to the point kevin was making on romney's sort of disclaimer that he is not going to do this every game. p-104. i will speak out against significant actions, and anti-immigrant and dishonest or destructive to democratic institutions. if dishonesty is the bar for