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we're in mesa, arizona, tonight's cnn arizona republican presidential debate. it's been about a among since they last faced off and since then even more upheaval. rick santorum is now the surging candidates and the one for mitt romney to beat tonight. both men we are campaigning down to the wire and may have given each other press ammunition. he's here with us, going through the details. what's the latest? >> for the top two candidates, the devil is in the debails. two potential flash points. tonight mitt romney's new tax plan and rick santorum's faith-based brand of politics. he mad...

>> we begin tonight with presidential politics. new numbers that underscore just how important our big debate here is tomorrow night and a new twist in the campai campaign conversation. a new cnn times poll shows a statistical dead heat this arizona. 36% for mitt romney, 32% for the surging rick santorum. add in a small santorum lead in michigan which also votes next tuesday, and what you get is a tense, volatile gop race as the final four candidates prepare for their first debate in nearly a month. in a moment how the tightness of the race is playing out among the candidates. but fi...

This. >> right. >> but if the results come back this was a problem -- >> there's also at least from my thinking in the past when i thought about this, and i was talking about this in the office today, i assume everyone using cell phones, they must be tested and safe and stuff. but clearly they haven't been around long enough and just because everybody is using them, it doesn't mean that there's not going to be some terrible news about these things down the road. >> we find out things years down the road. leaded gasoline, cigarettes. it takes time for that data to come back. you saw how low tec...

This was a problem -- >> there's also at least from my thinking in the past when i thought about this, and i was talking about this in the office today, i assume everyone using cell phones, they must be tested and safe and stuff. but clearly they haven't been around long enough and just because everybody is using them, it doesn't mean that there's not going to be some terrible news about these things down the road. >> we find out things years down the road. leaded gasoline, cigarettes. it takes time for that data to come back. you saw how low tech the safety testing is. i was surprised. i thou...

Talking about this in the office today, i assume everyone uses cell phones, they must be tested and safe and stuff. but clearly they haven't been around long enough and just because everybody is using them, it doesn't mean that there's not going to be some terrible news about these things down the road. >> we find out things years down the road. leaded gasoline, cigarettes. it takes time for that data to come back. you saw how low tech the safety testing is. i was surprised. i thought it would be much more sophisticated. it's not. i got my cell phone right here. that number that you saw on the...