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Think this is so close now is simply you can look at all of ken cuccinelli's problems then look at who the democratic candidate is. terry mccaauliffe. jonathan who writes for "new york" magazine, said mcauliffe is is the kind of democrat the democrats have dreamed of voting against. cuccinelli is the alternative. it's one of those where the negatives are so high on both i think. >> when we get that, already talking about the surge in decline that happens between presidential and midterm elections. if you have a democrat you're not particularly enthusiastic about, you have a republican who make...

That's definitely the story over the last generation or so. there's a huge different in virginia between the electorate that shows up in a presidential election year and the electorate that's shown up when obama has been on the ballot versus when president obama is not on ballot, the off year. virginia of 2008 and 2012, very different in the virginia that elected bob mcdonnell in 2009, the one that went republican in 2010 in the midterms. if that basic electorate shows up here, cuccinelli would have more of a chance. the other issue, other reason i think this is so close now is simply you can ...