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2020 election results and did not want trump to go to the capitol after his incendiary speech on january 6th. but hudson also told the public this baloney had the year of mark meadows that day and wanted him to convince the former president to stop the insurrectionists. now, as the january six committee gears up for more hearings this month, the panel says it's prepared to investigate efforts to intimidate witnesses. we now know that, before testify, hutchison was urged by a text message to, quote, do the right thing and remain loyal to the ex president. nbc news has learned that tha...

Sail lad, but this business about he's watching, he knows you're loyal and you will do the right thing. that's a little more discreet, that's mob style. >> it is mob style. it's done in a subtle way, so you have plausible deniability that, oh no, that wasn't the, threat we are just supporting you, or we are just reminding you that we're all here together to encourage you. but this is also a gift, ali, like you just said about rudy giuliani. because when someone tempers with witnesses, it is itself a very serious crime. it's a crime punishable by up to 20 years in prison and i know sometimes pe...