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Rightfully so. but we can't all of a sudden get down on our knees and turn everything over to the leadership of the blacks. i believe in white supremacy, duke said to come until the blacks are educated to the poinf responsibility. laura, what i don't like about both of these stories, we are judging the past in the light of shifting moral ethnic and cultural codes of today. we cannot do that. >> laura: they are either defacing statues or pulling them down. and i have said this before and i will keep saying this. this is what the tele- band does. the taliban used to rip down historical markers, ...