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Gone left is because democratic centrists were represented by the clintons so long. if you are in the democratic party and you don't want to feel dirty because the clintons are in it for themselves. they're opportunists, running this rotten charity which isth there to provide them with a head of state lifestyle t when the public declines to make them heads of state. if you are a democrat, the left is the comparatively clean sidel >> tucker: totally right. they discredit it by sleaziness. >> that's right. >> tucker: that's a very smart point which i never thought of. >> that has huge repercussi...

It's not called treason. so let's just talk about it for what it really is. let's not triple guess people and do the whole monday morning quarterback thing. i'm going to tell you something, people in certain high stress decision making situations, they sometimes make a mistake. >> guess what else, sometimes they lie. i've lied lots of times in my life. >> when have you lied? >> after the fact, trust me -- >> when have you lied? when have you lied? >> anthony, months later when they're on air force one coming home from the g-20 meeting and they craft a story saying meeting was about adopting ru...

Respond takes away from everything else. >> it's not just steve bannon in the book. >> it's a mosaic that's true. the gary cohen thing, he obviously didn't write that e-mail. it's written as these are thoughts attributed to gary cohen and they're elements of the thoughts portrayed in there. gary doesn't think the president reads very much, not engaged on policy, ring true. things a lot of people in the west wing -- the fact he tapped out an e-mail to lloyd myfind, of course not. >> when the president says this is run like a tight ship or a fine well-oiled machine, the best of the best people. ...

To saying, boy, i don't like it here, is his former boss, the one person who stood between gary and ultimate power running goldman was lloyd myfind. you know right there, a story like that, just ain't true. as things come out in this book that are stories that might not be the case, then what happens? does michael wolff, does the book lose credibility? because right now, this thing's a bombshell. when the president says i'm going to sue you, it's only going to sell more books. >> the president is promoting this in a way by talking about it so much with that lawsuit and also by spending most of...

Helping each other out and stuff like that. you in here by yourself, you're going to have to look for somebody to confide in. mainly they got to be on the same level as far as thinking and outlook. >> i love him. love him to death. that's about the only one i can sit down with and have a real conversation with. >> kenyatta, he a deep individual. i like to see how far i can go with arguments, conversations, debates, and all that. and he put up that fight. >> people probably suspected their relationship was something other than what it was. but from my observation, it was truly a platonic friend...