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You want to take care of each other. and nobody wants to be called a hero. you think about all the people who perform valiantly. we've had tens of millions of americans the in uniform. so many of them perform valiantly. and maybe nobody saw it. or people saw it and they themselves were killed. or they put in the paperwork and it was lost accidentally or on purpose and you realize that you don't wear the medal for yourself, you wear it for all those who care. >> there's one other thing you hear, mike, time and time again, from heroes who come back from war. they say they're not heroes. they say...

Of honor, dakota meyer and sal junta. each out with a book telling their personal stories of survival and sacrifice. first, our conversation with marine sergeant meyer. >> well, it was a very simple framework and very tragic, that at the top, they decided that they would send in some afghan soldiers with their advisers, like dakota, into a small valley, that was surrounded by large ridgelines. and they said that the villages wanted to be friends. and this was right on the border with pakistan. and the pakistani taliban came over and set up an ambush in the middle of the village and they had ev...

That have happened in the last 60 years. >> madeleine albright, thank you. coming up, there are currently 80 living recipients of the military's highest decoration, the medal of honor. this year, we have the honor of speaking with two of those men, former staff sergeant sal junta and former sergeant dakota meyer. their gripping stories are ahead on "morning joe." and up next, the day a nation lost its president. our conversation with chris matthews on jfk, elusive hero. stay with us. [ cellphon irping ] [ buzzing ] bye dad. drive safe. k. love you. [ chirping, buzzing continues ] [ horn ho...

Say he was a smart, enlightened cold warrior who wanted to avoid a real war with the soviets. domestically, he was a democrat, doing what democrats are expected to do with medicare, pushing that with civil rights. i think he became more emotional about civil rights towards the end. so i would call him a regular democrat, domestically, out front on civil rights, foreign policy, a cold warrior who wanted to avoid a real nuclear war and i think he really did set the standard. >> chris matthews, thank you. up next, our conversation with two men who have received the military's highest honor. med...

Own values that you carry within that you just addressed. but in the context not just of this one battle, but in the context of your service in afghanistan, and your experience in afghanistan, thousand frustrating are the rules of engagement? >> you know, they're frustrating for two reasons. number one, it makes your commanders question everything that you do. but number two, it also allows your leadership to have a way to get out of accountability. instead of holding themselves accountable for, well, i should have made a decision, i should have known better, or i should have listened to my tr...