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Prevention in the world and focus elsewhere. and it will be an important distinction between them. and i think a distinction that will be important to many voters and that will be on display. >> last word, sally. >> again, this goes to not just where they are now but were they were. bernie sanders consistently against the iraq war and other irresponsible american interventions. and hillary clinton was for it. and then when other people were against it, she's against it. that temperament, particularly hawkish is hurting her among other things. >> richard, sally, thank you so much. we'll be watc...

Because the trade bill has just been completed, right? i think as secretary of state she was part of the obama administration and supported the idea to come up with the trade deal that met certain environmental standards. now, we have the trade deal. and her view is it does not met her strong test. >> sally, is that how you see it? >> though were impressive verbal gymnastics from richard. >> thank you. >> she changed her mind. she changed her mind. the difference is, a lot of issues between hillary and bernie is not where they came out on the issues, but how long they've been there. bernie was...

Protection of lawful commercial in arms act. sala sally, let me start with you. do you think this is something that she'll be able to go after him after the debate? >> yes, she should. she should before the oregon shooting and should now. this is something that people don't know about bernie sanders but should. he's from a pro-gun state. he has a very strong record in challenging or not supporting common sense gun laws. hillary clinton has a strong record in fact supporting dmons gun reform. this is the point where she is with the majority of democratic americans. she should hammer him on this...

The difference is hillary buts her finger in the wind and changes her mind. a lot of people see bernie sanders as the wind of change himself. that's the difference. >> let's get to the economy and see where they differ on the economy. both of that support higher taxes on the wealthy. both support raising the minimum wage. bernie's is higher to $15. impose accountability on wall street, what's the difference? >> well, i think both of them are in a good place in terms of creating jobs, in terms of raising the minimum wage. in terms of straining protections against the abuses on wall street. so, ...