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General clark, i want to start with you. supreme ally commander of nato. so for years you lived under and commanded under the protection of the inf treaty. this was a significant agreement between the united states and russia where an entire class of missiles was destroyed. the only time in history, i believe, that's the case. now that this treaty is over and i understand there's bipartisan agreement that russia was violating this treaty, now that this treaty is dead, what's the significance? >> well, i think it does mark one more ratchet up on the movement towards an adversarial relationship ...

>> general mattis, a former ally commander, but the president knows more about nato than mattis, michael? >> during the campaign, he said he knew more about war and peace than the generals. he was questioning whether the nato alliance had been in place to keep the peace and been a success. this is just absurdity. but he's the president of the united states and leslie stall is not. >> all right. this gives -- >> the president -- >> he doesn't read his intelligence reports. who doesn't even read his intelligence reports. >> i got to go. thank you, all. i appreciate it. >> bye. >> thank you. ok...

World war iii. >> no, it's not true. >> what's not? >> frankly, i like general mattis. i think i know more about it than he does, and i know more about it from the standpoint of fairness. that i can tell you. >> general mattis, a former ally commander, but the president knows more about nato than mattis, michael? >> during the campaign, he said he knew more about war and peace than the generals. he was questioning whether the nato alliance had been in place to keep the peace and been a success. this is just absurdity. but he's the president of the united states and lesley stahl is not. >> all ...

That piece of turf in syria. you have the special operations command, which is doing a lot of precise, heavy lifting in that part of the world and nato. you have the supreme ally commander. those three american commanders have an array of networks and array of alliances and partnerships and they have to communicate very, very clearly. this proclamation by the president makes it difficult because there's little predictability in what the president is saying and what exists in terms of what those combatant commanders are saying to partners. >> april, on another note, the president who stands acc...

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