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Middle class and that's something they do not want to be blamed for by democrats, by harming the middle class. i think that and the corporate rate not going about 20% are two things that the white house are so adamant about keeping. >> harris: these are deal breakers? >> right. but the deal breakers here, the negotiating ones is the salt deduction, state and local it deduction. because you have mulvaney the budget director saying we think we should get rid of it because it's fairness.we but at the end of the day, you're gonna need a lot of these republican moderates on board.bl if they're goin...

Middle class and had that's something they do not want to be blamed for by democrats, by harming the middle class. i think that and the corporate rate not going about 20% are two things that the white house are so adamant about keeping. >> these are deal breakers? >> right. but the deal breakers here, the negotiating ones is the salt deduction, state and local it deduction. because you have mulvaney the budget director saying we think we should get rid of it because it's fairness. but at the end of the day, you're gonna need a lot of these republican moderates on board. if they're going to neg...

Why we're being so deliberate about how we're going about tax reform and tax relief for the american worker. i think republicans are being very careful and they are considering things that are small sticking points like the 401(k) aspect. president trump has led and stood up on twitter and said he wouldn't allow us to tax the pretax amount on the 401(k) contributions by americans. why should we make it harder for americans to save for retirement? at the same time, bigger states are throwing up their hands in new york and new jersey over eliminating the salt deduction, which would allow america...

It's been on the books since income tax code was invented in 1913. it seems to me that many gop senators from red states are deliberately trying to punish blue democratic states by removing the salt deduction which benefits higher tax states. to me, this seems both unethical and bad policy. so my question for you is, why would a middle class working mom like myself support taking away the middle class salt deduction so that the wealthy americans, like you, can get more money? thank you. >> andrea, thank you for your question. thank you for being here. number one, i agree with you. the objectiv...

The salt. 28 million middle class american households took this deduction in 2015. you're talking about helping the middle class americans. 28 million households in that bracket took the salt deduction. you're talking about -- >> we got to lower the rate low enough that those are paying less taxesment the objective is to cut everybody's taxes. it was interesting. i'll say a couple things. number one, bernie talks about all the things he wants to federal government to spend on, free education for everyone, free health care for everyone, he wants a chicken in every pot. if he were in colorado it...