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Sanctions and economic measures have failed. >> sam, i wanted to talk to you because you and i had this similar experience. i feel like there's this sort of pendulum swing. there's the iraq war and there's george w. bush, and that was routinely sort of unanimously viewed as a huge failure by the end of his presidency, a disaster. in fact donald trump ran against it. that's how he won the primary, partly. and then there's barack obama and his was he didn't act enough. and i feel like we've erased the preobama mistakes. you can feel the kind of appreciation and we wou appreciation. >> look, it's...

Likely that he's a grown-up who has adult advisers around him who say, you know, historically to engage in some type of military action when your numbers are rather low can give you seven points in the polls and bring you back up into the 40s so that you can start to move a legislative agenda. i mean that's also -- >> that's a very cynical interpretation, i will say. >> it's also just as probable. it seems to me, then, that the only awareness he has of children dying in the world are from the most recent cable television. >> we should also be clear that the context here is that drone strikes u...

Believed that they have the authority to escalate and to at least consult but then go forward. the question is, is it in our interest to get congress involved, and i actually think now he could get the vote, and it would be helpful to go to congress at this point. >> that's interesting. jennifer and shadi, i want you to stay with me because i want to bring in ken vogel, who say cheev investigative reporter at politico, and msnbc sam cedar. ken, i want to go with you because i've been sort of monitoring the world out of which steve bannon emanates. this sort of alt-right parts of that, more ext...

Nondecision. and with the president of their own party, i think they would be much more likely to follow on and to follow him. and many democrats have been speaking out about this as well. . demanding a mor forforceful, mo robust foreign policy. let me go back to something that sam said that i think is very troublesome. i didn't vote for this president, but he is the commander in chief, and we're going to have to live with him and we can't not take action because we now don't trust him. it's why i didn't vote for him. i thought he was a disaster, but now that he's there, it is his call and fra...

The united states would lead to the fall of assad, i don't think even is on the table as an immediately tactical aim. >> right. it's not. >> sam, michael just mentioned libya. that i think is part of the context here as well is the notion of, you know, libya was passed out of the u.n. security council and it had a very specific set of non-regime change aims that were humanitarian, having to do with the responsibility to protect civilians that were surrounded by gadhafi's forces that were explicitly being threatened with murder. >> yes. >> he was going to go door to door. it was under those aus...