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I think this is more by legal construction. if he had this meeting, and they will have to vet it out, this is a potential kidnapping plot of a legal resident of the united states. sam, am i getting the analysis wrong? there is an extradition policy for a legal resident here being returned to turkey. say there was no money or wasn't for this. take it out of the equation, okay, yeah, i'll get him out. we will put him on a private plane, get him out of here outside the normal procedure. why isn't that kidnapping? >> well, it -- >> it didn't happen. but i'm saying if that were the discussion. >> w...

Well. and i think that, again, i frankly would prefer to see someone like sam osule who lives in roanoke, he lives there, he has good name recognition, someone like that to step up and run. i've got to tell you, either way, a democrat has to take that seat because the two -- of the two candidates on the republican side that have announced, one guy, ben klein, he makes goodlatte look like bernie sanders. he is so extreme, just an extreme right-winger. it's the kind of person that virginia voters completely rejected last tuesday. and that blue tidal wave shows that maybe there is a tipping point...