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Irving is going for one of those exemptions he could try with the team and then ultimately at commissioner level, but typically you would have to prove a good faith reason to get it that is based in religion or something moral. you know, you can't say i'm against it because of political reasons or because i don't trust it. you knows, those historically at least have not been good enough. it has to be based in some sort of religious or moral belief system and that will have to be backed up. you know, you can't just say that. you'll have to find some sort of religious authority figure to write a...

Do it is that you have to mandate it sadly. can you do everything that you have done at this point. the vaccine is available and it's free. it's clearly safe and effective. influencers have tried to make a difference, but when it comes right down to it in this country, there's 60 million to 65 million people who said i don't want to get a vaccine. i'm going to continue to be fertile ground for this virus to spread and cause harm and mutate and create variants that may become more resistant to the vaccine and what do you do when you say that? you can't stand back and let it happench it's not fa...

Point the system bends and bends and bends, at sam point does it bra break? at some point someone needs to stand up and say, no, this data doesn't exist or, no, you're not allowed to do that. or, no, you're appropriating the congressional power we haven't yet reached that point. when we do, when we really do have a constitutional crisis and it's scary to think what ends up happening at that point. >> they're all lies. >> i know. it's crazy. at some point, we are at that point. er that all lies. let's just repeat it for the

Invoke a national emergency in many different circumstances, but among them for military construction fronts. that's the point i was making earlier, if he was going to say we can increase the perimeter around a base if bag ram, in syria, nobody would say anything about it. and we have 4,000 troops on the border right now, as a result of that mix, they need to secure those areas they are patrolling. >> military constructions, do you know how many times military instruction has been invoked as a national emergency, twice in once by george h.w. bush during the middle of a gulf war, and the second...

>> joe, did you say a mullet toss in alabama? >> it's hard to keep up. >> well, you have -- >> please, don't explain it and there's a technique, you fold the mullets and you see who can thr throw. >> we should build a wall around that i think. >> okay. >> build a wall around that. but to your point, yeah, there's a lot of misdirection here. obviously we do not have an emergency on the southern border. >> so lying. >> but, secondly, to see trump get up there and say i didn't have to do this right now just undermines the entirety of the emergency argument. of course, that might not have as much ...