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It tells us that he doesn't understand how government works. he thinks because he's used plil politicians to shut down inquires or get policies changed, he thinks getting rid of comey would stop the fbi and it goes to donald's complete incompetence. >> it's pretty extraordinary, sam. same question to you. why can't he stop himself? he was told by the white house counsel, do not send a letter to jim comey that mentions russia. he insisted on doing that. the draft is now hands of these fbi agent dss -- >> and the original draft. >> and he said it on the air with lester holt. why can't he stop hi...

Which, you know, the famous spy said those were the characteristics they wanted in an asset. they wanted a person they could manipulate. donald trump is like a case officer's dream. he comes in and when he comes out and does those arrogant pronunciations, a good intelligence staff like, i don't know, an ex-former kgb officer and his top four staffers who are kgb, fsb retirees, they would be able to manipulate donald trump no matter what he said or when he said it. donald trump sees russia, the russian oligarchy and vladimir putin as his base, equal to the red hats that he has in the united sta...

That the fbi is an independent body. it's interesting, whether i like james comey or not, comey said he had never spoken to barack obama more than twice during his entire tenure. as presidents of the united states, you are supposed to leave the fbi alone. leet leave them alone, right. >> exactly. i want to play a little bit of the interview i did with congressman jim heinz that sits on the house intelligence committee last night and i have a quick question for you on the other side of that. >> do you trust donald trump with the national security of the united states? >> i absolutely do not. th...

Up, at least publically. i don't know what he said privately. but if there is the same pattern, then, sure, he has some legal vulnerabilities. >> let's talk about that. we don't know what roger stone is talking about. but in theory we do know that that's a public statement, as sam said, that didn't match up with reality. so it's quite possible that donald trump jr. and others repeated that lie in private to the fbi. is that the kind of thing the mueller investigation might do? >> charge him? >> they could. there is also a possibility he could be charged with lying to congress in his testimony ...

Skepticism when evaluating the testimony of a cooperator and making sure it lines up with the other evidence in the case. so i worry about the impact that that has when jurors across the country hear the president of the united states say it ought to be illegal because prosecutors ask juries to believe cooperators every day in all kinds of garden variety cases, and i think that this statement makes it harder for prosecutors to obtain convictions in many kinds of cases. >> sam, according to "vanity fair," the president spent the weekend calling people and screaming following the cohen, manafort...