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Anger will be directed most at them. >> well, i think it's going to be a function of what trump's strategy is. as he comes to grips with the idea that he's going to lose the election if that happens, certainly the numbers point to that, he's going to have this two-pronged strategy, to delegitimize a hillary clinton. rebecca trace had a great tweet that in some ways this is the birther movement 0.2, i guess. this the way that he's going to attempt to delegitimize the clinton presidency, but he also has to -- you know, he's been hinting at this sort of stabbed in the back narrative. i wouldn't b...

I think that's going to intensify and in some ways the anger will be directed most at them. >> well, i think it's going to be a function of what trump's strategy is. as he comes to grips with the idea that he's going to lose the election if that happens, certainly the numbers point to that, he's going to have this two-pronged strategy, to dele t delegitimize a hillary clinton. rebecca trace had a great tweet that in some ways this is the birther movement 0.2, i guess. this the way that he's going to attempt to delegitimize the clinton presidency, but he also has to -- you know, he's been hinti...

>> that know is going to be really interesting, him sort of laying out for the country what the choice is going to be coming down in the next nine or ten months. >> and i think you're right about the vindication. he could actually do mitt romney's highlight reel from 2012 -- >> all the things -- >> just play it on the screen and go that, no. that, sorry. >> it's true. >> all those things you promised, did it. and you know, i had my disagreements with president obama. but he has a very strong case to make. and if he wants to sort of push it to the future he has the opportunity to do that too. >...

President obama and i were both in the senate, and we voted no. senator sanders voted yes. >> joining me now, sam seder. he's msnbc contributor and host of the podcast "majority report with sam seder." i think as -- you know, today felt like a landmark day in the democratic primary because it was like really -- okay, like this is real. >> right. these two candidates are within the margin of error in both the early states. you can feel with the clinton campaign they recognize they have to make the case, and they are making it and they're making it in a substantive way. this is not like smearing...

He could actually do mitt romney's highlight reel from 2012 -- >> all the things -- >> just play it on the screen and go that, no. that, sorry. >> it's true. >> all those things you promised, did it. and you know, i had my disagreements with president obama. but he has a very strong case to make. and if he wants to sort of push it to the future he has the opportunity to do that too. >> people forget that summer before the financial crisis happened with him and mccain going head to head gas prices were all anyone tied about. it was a 90% gas price driven news cycle. sam seder, thanks for joinin...