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0 we were getting a lot of last-minute information there especially with that un security council meeting -- as you well know, she has been a very forceful voice for the united states and for the ukraine in the days gone past. she's illustrating things that we believe to be happening in ukraine, but there is what you call a lot of chatter and noise tonight about what is happening in the eastern region of ukraine and i will say, lawrence, it's particularly alarming. >> the latest report from moscow is that vladimir putin is -- either he has just finished or speaking at this moment, saying that ...

Humanitarian corridor which givers a blessing to this as being an organic, spontaneous crisis. there is a new sanction package, the fifth that's coming down the pipe that's been agreed to in brussels. there is talk to sources i have spoken to of a sixth package. the question is is lukeshenko is going to be punished. are they going to be financially penalized? i would say probably very much so. he's now put his condition for essentially making this all go away as please recognize me as the dually elected head of state of belarus and also lift sanctions. in other words, pay me and i will make th...

To account. remember, it was over a year ago that we had to pass sanctions over the president's objection, 98-2. he previously said he would veto any sanction package. so we passed it 98-2 and he couldn't veto it anymore. so i think that we've got to do something similar here. at least express our support for the intelligence community. >> so more sanctions? >> well, obviously we've got to hold russia to account. i don't expect these individuals to be extradited, but we can impose additional sanctions or increase -- find new individuals to sanction in russia certainly. >> what about holding up...

To russia. now finally can say they are doing something with respect to russia. this sanction package which passed by congress almost unanimously. with the package of north korean sanctions and now iran and imposed north korean sanctions, but faltering on the iran deal. now with russia, they were going to use that in the back pocket to deter russian bad actors and misbehavior. in a way, it does work. economic sanctions only take you so far. president vladimir putin doesn't want to really steer away from what he is currently doing. he is a man who wants as much power as he can get and if it mak...

Those sanctions and essentially with the united states taking it in stride the way that we did, it comes across as a misfire on the part of putin. it doesn't escalate things further. it's two steps in a row back to back that result in the sanctions package being enacted. >> right. but you think -- >> we're on the high road. >> congressman, you think the president was right in thanking vladimir putin for expelling u.s. employees, because he thanked him for helping him cut costs? >> obviously, he was being sarcastic when he said, thank you. he wasn't genuinely thanking vladimir putin. he was bei...