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By rules and laws and stuff. >> right. and i think the enormity of the job is finally starting to sink into the trump campaign, as when we saw his son-in-law wanted to know how much of the presidential staff was going to stick around. they definitely have a deep learning curve. but he was cautious of saying anything extreme to trump, because he recognizes at the end of the day in american politics we have to make sure that we are keeping the sacredness of the oval office, the sanction tilt of it. >> i want to listen to something that he said about donald trump, and this is a point you thought ...

That the work here is governed by rules and laws and stuff. >> right. and i think the enormity of the job is finally starting to sink into the trump campaign, as when we saw his son-in-law wanted to know how much of the presidential staff was going to stick around. they definitely have a deep learning curve. but he was cautious of saying anything extreme to trump, because he recognizes at the end of the day in american politics we have to make sure that we are keeping the sacredness of the oval office, the sanction tilt of it. >> i want to listen to something that he said about donald trump, a...