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It. and then we end up on the ground, cops came over, they tackled me, put their knee in my back, and then the cop that was dealing with him came over to help handcuff me. [ inaudible ] >> put you in handcuffs. and i understand they took you away to a holding area, right? >> yes. >> yeah. so what was going through your mind as the officers were handcuffing you and keeping you on the ground and then the white teen was just left there on the couch? >> i kind of felt like the cops were, like, going along with what the older kid was saying him about being bigger and stronger and superior. i felt l...

That effing n-word. it relates directly to violence. but does it prove that ahmaud arbery's murder was a hate crime? >> you know, i'm glad to be with you. i'm sorry we're having to talk about this. let me say one thing i've enjoyed listening to mr. arbery, the father, speak candidly from his heart. that was moving. this is the difficulty with a hate crime prosecution. no matter how disgusting and sickening, racist comments that somebody might make, that just gives a picture of their character. but it doesn't necessarily prove the hate crime. i mean, that's a little tough to explain except that...

Evidence, the prosecution still has to prove the murder of ahmaud arbery, who was chased down and shot to death in broad daylight while he was jogging in a georgia neighborhood. they have to prove that brutal crime was motivated by hate. but this is more than a legal story, though it is that. it is that. it is about justice for all, black, white, brown. but it's also about the america that we live in, the america where every day there are people who feel completely free to speak hate, to text it to each other. they don't do it out in the open, sometimes they do, but usually they don't. to make...

Time, text or facebook postings close in time. that's why the comment we heard that mr. brian relayed that he heard at the scene right after ahmaud was shot, that honorable comment. that's one -- horrible comment. remember we prosecute people for what they do. we don't prosecute people for what they think, no matter how disgusting they may be. >> a set of whatsapp messages uncovered by investigators discuss roddie bryan discovering his daughter was dating a black man. four days, quote, yeah, she has her n-word now. i've been calling that for a while now, not sprsurprised. how should a jury wei...

What's interesting in this case is this case is not about whether or not there was a murder. there was. this is now simply a case about what the motivation for the murder was. so if you think back to the state case, the defendants almost created their own defense now talking about, well, we didn't do it because it was a young black man running in our neighborhood, we did it because we tried to enforce the law and we were going to deputize ourselves, i guess, and do a citizen's arrest. that's going to be the theme we'll hear going forward. in this case, the jury is going to be overwhelmed with ...