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Protecting herself. >> and that's an argument that jodi is betting her life on. >> greta: and ksaz anchor troy hayden is here. did she seem the least bit worried about her fate? >> we talked a little about the case and she asked me not know talk about that and maybe the when the trial is over. i left with three big questions about jodi arias, a master manipulator, a great access, are there two jodis, as i was talking to her, talking about a number of things, two feet, at the whole time i could barely think about what she sass saying, you, you're the person who did this to travis alexander, she...

Protecting herself. >> and that's an argument that jodi is betting her life on. >> greta: and ksaz anchor troy hayden is here. did she seem the least bit worried about her fate? >> we talked a little about the case and she asked me not know talk about that and maybe the when the trial is over. i left with three big questions about jodi arias, a master manipulator, a great access, are there two jodis, as i was talking to her, talking about a number of things, two feet, at the whole time i could barely think about what she sass saying, you, you're the person who did this to travis alexander, she...

It? >> he was rational to me. he understood what i was saying. i understood what he sass saying. we are communicating well. i have no idea other than that. >> some people describe it as going rogue and wasn't returning calls and putting up a web site did. you have that conversation like you have to -- if i'm going to represent you, you have got to do this my way? >> i think mr. zimmerman and i have a good understanding of what i can offer to him and how he is best allow me to be a good lawyer for him. i think that there may have been some misunderstandings or confusions or maybe even some inac...