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The dossier. if that's what he was referring to, he was mistaken. but it's not totally clear what he was referring to. >> what you're saying, ben, is that the russian intelligence services are unusually adept and actually killed him two weeks before you even released the dossier. this is an intelligence service to be fearful of. it's sort of like straight up -- >> if that's why he died. there are a lot of dots being connected here. >> no, i was being sarcastic. the guy died two weeks before you released t mika, the republic republicans have been so spun up, mika, about the do ssier fo a year n...

The white house. >> and the kind of professionalism we want as an example for our children if the white house is this sloppy. how do you tell a kid putting together a resumé it can have spelling mistakes in it. small things like typos, i don't minimize. they bother me as much as they bother mika. then you go to the attention to detail to pass a health care bill. and change agent, do things differently but you to spell things correctly and you have to talk to members of congress to figure out what they need to vote in your direction. >> that's a great point. and sam stein, not to bring up

The veteran senators in the blue room having rib eye with the president and two senators are bolting as they're having this quiet dinner talking about bastille day and other things. there was also this projected confidence in the gop that never met with what was happening on the ground and in the cloak room. >> joique us now from capitol hill, senator tim kaine of virginia. great to have you on the show. >> thanks, guys. >> we want to talk about that second meeting with flld fld but let's stay on health care. >> you bet. >> the president talking about letting obamacare fail and then he'll some...

Straight to say they weren't living up to the terms of the deal because they are. they're going to raise, pardon me, holy hell. all the members who put together this agreement to bafr about all of the sangss that were put on all the designations that went along with this certification. >> mika? >> and ian, i just want to go back to this meeting with putin and i wonder if there's anything of interest in terms of what happens here as it pertains to the russian investigation. are there requirements that there need to be roudouts, that if meetings there needs to be two we all may agree or disagree...

Not evidence of a crime. >> reporter: robert mueller wants to interview him and he plans on cooperating. no date has been set for that or for trump jr. to testify on capitol hill. mika, joe? >> nbc's kristen welker, thank you very much. joining us now member of the foreign relations committee, senator chris murphy of connecticut. what questions do you have especially in light of this new information, the revelations about the second previously up disclosed meeting between president trump and vladimir putin? >> so i risk that i worry that we risk losing a little bit of perspective on some of ...