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She joins me now. first, let's start with cleta mitchell and who she is, her role. she's a establishment republican attorney, is my sense? >> yes, she's been involved in republican politics for a really long time and, in fact, this is not the first voting advisory board that she's ever sat on. i think that her extreme ideology flew under the radar for a really long time but then obviously hit everyone right in the face when the audio of the georgia call came out and she couldn't really run from it anymore. so this appointment is pretty stunning. >> so she was appointed. what is the -- the elec...

Had been testifying on capitol hill today. what kind of impact is that having? >> yeah, all day long, he has been behind closed doors and revealing testimony telling the white house investigators that the president essentially put on ice in an effort to strengthen relations between the united states and ukrainian government in exchange for these officials to talk to rudy giuliani. giuliani wanted the ukraine government to put out a formal statement saying investigation was underway, both into the energy, the company barisma that hunter biden, joe biden's son, sat on, as well as this investigat...

The third summit before they left there. >> bill: there was a strong hunch that we would get some of that. maybe in coming days. right before that happened, sandra, the president sat on was sean hannity. they stood one on one here in hanoi. this is how they framed the decision. >> we are working toward something. we didn't sign anything today. didn't quite work out. i would say that i wasn't satisfied, and perhaps he wasn't satisfied. get a relationship, but i decided this wasn't the right time to sign something. we will see what happens. >> bill: to very specific questions. first you morgan, ...

The order would be we go back and forth, and apparently, you can have two republicans speak and one democrat. is that what the chairman is doing? >> absolutely. after i get done, and i'm not giving an opening statement, i'm explaining as the chairman ought to explain, the work of the committee to people that don't seem to understand it. i'll call on senator hatch when i'm done, and then i'm going to call on you, senator leahy. when i learned of ms. ramirez's allegations, i acted immediately to investigate them, unlike our democratic colleagues, some of who sat on her story and apparently condu...

And never again get involved in it, because he said, i wouldn't care about anything but our country, anything. now whatever young of the idea of sons and daughters taking the place of a true blind trust, even though he's only the president-elect, not the president yet, his actions are already raising questions. he met last week with three indian business partners, also with daughter ivanka, who will be running his company, sat on in his meeting with a japanese prime minister, "the washington post" reports that foreign diplomats have begun staying at his new hotel in washington. by all appearan...