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Someone is going to win the first two states. and i think those people will be better positioned to win south carolina than someone who lost the first two states. >> jonathan, stuart makes the point in his piece that no candidate picked by a so-called brokered convention hads won since fdr in 1932. you're suggesting here the other night a brokered convention could give a tremendous excitement to the republican ticket because we would be doing saturation coverage of this, this would be breaking news 24 hours a day for four days and then suddenly this triumphant character could appear and that c...

Very important. we can certainly not read into the hung jury based on that racial distribution. but it would be interesting to see how that jury came down along those lines as well as on the charges. >> joy, i heard some commentators say that a change of venue from baltimore city to baltimore county would not have been a enough if your goal is to get out of the pool of people who have seen saturation coverage of this. i heard someone say, you know, from maybe nebraska would give you a fairer look at this trial. was it ever seriously considered to move this out of the venue we're looking at on ...

A grocer retired from his job. a grandfather. a widower who had spent years nursing his sick wife. but for 15 years police say john jamelske had another identity as a sexual slave master in a makeshift underground dungeon he had built himself to abuse and imprison a string of young women. now he's heading to trial, accused of kidnapping and rape, and there would be a drama in the courtroom. once more, here's rob stafford. >> in early summer 2003 john jamelske entered a syracuse courtroom for the first time. after two months of saturation coverage, the place was packed with people who wanted to...

With him. it's -- when you talk with people who have personal dealings with donald trump. in perpendicular, people say he's a nice guy. and he manages to develop these relationships that are much more cordial than you would expect given his public persona of picking fights with everyone. do you think that means he can mend fences with the hispanic community more than you would expect. >> that's a huge -- you know as we sit here and sort of marvel at the whole firestorm that he generates in the media. in spanish language media, it's more. it's pretty much saturation coverage. >> wow. >> so he's...

On her, in this matter, talking about this is the future versus the past, i think it's a very cutting, very effective line of attack in the early framing. >> helene what did you make of the saturation coverage of it all? i don't know we were at our best, we in the media looked our best running around chasing her for what were very scripted events. >> i think that is probably true, but that was always going to be the case. there is no way hillary clinton's rollout wasn't going to get a deluge of press coverage. i disagree with steve though. i think her rollout was actually, i thought it was bet...