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Joining us now is patrick murray, director of the monmouth university polling institute. thank you for being here. >> my pleasure. >> so when you look at trump's polling what is the single most surprising finding you have? >> the biggest finding that we had is if we go back a few months ago in as late as june, a majority of republican voters said i do not like donald trump. i do not like him here or there i do not like him. >> i do not like him on a train. >> and within six weeks a majority of gop voters said i do like donald trump. he is somebody i want to look at for president which means at...

And somehow donald trump who with i thought was at saturation point has managed to have more of a name and the other more surprising, people learned something about a political candidate and are the -- actual likes. >> usually they start off unknown and did something to become known. positively or negatively. donald trump when we talk the june numbers, everyone knew who he was. this was not an unknown commodity. what did he do in the meantime? the big thing he did is say he was announcing for president and said he would build the classiest wall. and that sparked people. i spent time in iowa in...

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$1 billion each before november and still be broke at the end, right? >> right. >> possibly in debt. yeah. it does bring up the question. i mean, i'm kind of with steve. at the presidential level i think that you get to a saturation point. if you're the president, you're the president. when you show up at a microphone people listen. there are two things that concern me. one is the lack of accountability in these adds. we've already seen several incredibly misleading at best ads put out there. there's very little accountability behind it. we've also seen studies that show these independent grou...