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Specifics are taking shape. you can look at them on screen. things like universal pre-k, climate provision, cap on childcare expenses will be in it, but some of the more popular policies like paid leave, free community college and expanded medicare, that did not make the cut. i'm joined now by former senate majority leader from nevada, harry reid. senator reid, great to see you. thanks so much for being on with us. you're no stranger to these -- great to see you, sir. you're no stranger to these kinds of negotiations. are you surprised where things stand or is this part of a normal sausage mak...

Legislative package includes voting rights, right, to the extent that his priorities include -- anyway, the president's evolution on this is important. >> yeah, no, the legislative package i'm referring to of course is just the reconciliation bill, which bypasses that whole 60 vote threshold thing. he's got to get that done, and then, yes, you don't get anything done after that. not a single thing. nothing moves through the senate after that if you leave that 60 vote threshold in place. >> but we'll see with senator manchin and senator sinema having the kind of leverage they do right now, we'l...

To the extent the legislative package includes voting rights, right, to the extent his priorities include -- anyway. the presidents evolution on this is important. >> the legislative package i'm referring to is the reconciliation bill which bypasses that whole 60 vote threshold. he's got to get it done. you don't get anything done after that, not a single thing, nothing moves through the senate after that, if you believe that 60 vote threshold in place. >> we will see, i mean, with senator manchin and senator sinema having the kind of leverage they do right now. i mean, we will see what's in t...

Sell it, jobs are created, half families are being helped, i don't think any of that's punching through. because you're engaged in backroom sausage making, which is never fun. but joe biden is someone who has done this throughout his career, he skilled at it. he's used to trying to get to them to the finish line. and this is going to get done, maybe all eat those words, but this is the whole enchilada. joe biden's legislative agenda, may not be very robust after this year. you gotta get everything you can get done right now. we've had of movement, in just a few days, where it looks like they'r...

What happened in this. you're going to have to do it on your own. you didn't allow us to come at the table when we were talking about some of the stimulus package at the beginning. they did it through budget reconciliation and now mitch is not going to just give it to him that easily. >> congressman kennedy, we could be right back here having the exact same conversation we're having right now. do you think that this is -- you heard senator baldwin a few minutes ago maybe talking about how they can't do the reconciliation, they can't pass it with only 50 votes using that special process because...