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I mean, that's one of the problems here is that president putin is really out on a limb. he's flexed his muscles. he's shown this incredibly intimidating military presence, and for him to just reel it all back, i think, is going to require him being able to say that he got something. so, where is that of the two circles can give putin accept and save face. but unfortunately, i just don't see where that overlap is right now. it's not at all clear that there is sufficient room for a compromise that is going to let both sides climb down. so, while the diplomatic process is going on, i just have t...

Russians and the u.s. and nato, that this -- this will potentially expand well beyond ukraine, and that may include offensive cyber operations as well. so i think this is where john is right. i think it would be great if we could de-escalate and find an off-ramp but i do worry if that's not the case, this may spill well beyond ukraine. >> ambassador, to this point that it could spill well beyond and that you do have each side preparing for if this, then this, the step effect here goes, we do know that the u.s. provided written responses to russia's demands, as did nato. today russia said putin...

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To back away from this and save face? >> so, every alternative that you have just outlined is being debated right now in washington and in european capitals and while washington in the last couple of days has a said new intelligence show that there is a potential for a major attack based on troop movement, the coordination with other countries and someone, at the same time, the white house is saying it does not have authoritative incredible evidence that putin is about to make a move. then, others say that he won't make a move before the end of the olympics on february 20. i think the larger i...

"wall street journal" and juan williams fox news analyst. what do you make of the moves and putin's situation right now. >> i think john kirby sums it up right in military terms. no doubt putin has made this enormous build-up on the border. what's unclear me if is if he decides not do this it this how does he climb down offer this perch and save face. we don't know what he has been assured of privately. perhaps he has been assured that ukraine would not join nato. but that wasn't going to happen any time soon if ever anyway. it's hard for me to picture that as being great win for him that he w...