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There's a cia save lives.com website. there's also thoughtful reporting by michael hayden. and yet -- the media, it is interesting, i think that what andrea said is a good point. if president obama says that's not who we are, if the torture -- i'm not going to call it torture, enhanced interrogation, tough talk to some terrorists, that's not who we are. but we are okay with blowing to smithereens people we think may or may not be involved in terror and not trying to capture them and get the intel from them? i agree with you, who the helr are we then? >> brit hume mentioned this yesterday. let'...

Included going after all the witnesses, everybody in the agency, everybody in the administration. people who were actually involved in the program. >> on page 15 is the summary. if i may. on page 15 of the summary, it makes it very clear that general hayden testified before the committee on this. secondly, the group of folks, including mr. harlow, general hayden, and others who have organized this website, cia save lives.com, they actually posted mr. brennan's letter to the committee from june of last year in which they made it clear in that letter that they had affirm opportunity to look at t...

There's a cia save lives.com website. there's also thoughtful reporting by michael hayden. and yet -- the media, it is interesting, i think that what andrea said is a good point. if president obama says that's not who we are, if the torture -- i'm not going to call it torture, enhanced interrogation, tough talk to some terrorists, that's not who we are. but we are okay with blowing to smithereens people we think may or may not be involved in terror and not trying to capture them and get the intel from them? i agree with you, who the helr are we then? >> brit hume mentioned this yesterday. let'...