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Motors thing, vice-president joe biden spent a lot of the speech touting the general motors victory in fact he said quote, president obama did that. president obama saved gm. well, hey, wait a second. he told the small business owners in this that they didn't do that. and guess what, the taxpayers did that. >> sandra, politically that was a powerful message and he's up in michigan because of that. >> it's a complete lie and if-- >> we paid for that. >> and ben stein, final point. >> it's a complete lie. president bush started to initiative to save the auto companies, not all the republicans we...

You've got to vote romney, what he has to hammer home and here's why. here is what i stand for. here is what i will do. here is how i will differ. that will be the mantra from the romney campaign even as president obama is saying don't change captains in the middle of the storm and definitely pay attention to the fact that the economy has slowly been improving. as you point out earlier on this trip, he will be talking about having saved gm and a lot of those manufacturing, industrial jobs in the midwest. arthel: juan williams, thank you very much. always good to hear your analysis. have a safe...

Focused in the middle income areas. they really got whacked in this great recession, and in the recovery a lot of the job increases have been in high skill, high paying positions or in the lowest paying industries. i think the bloomberg article makes that pretty clear. and so you have this group in the middle that got hit hard by the recession and has not really taken advantage of the recovery. those are going to be a lot of the independent voters that mitt romney and president obama are going to be trying to target in the campaign. jon: places leak detroit and the automotive industry, the pre...