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Mald malcolm, what is it you fear we're looking at as a result of this policy and pullout? >> what i fear is that we are looking at the salvation of the islamic state. you have to understand that the islamic state was sort of like a ball of mercury. even though the caliphate had been quashed by the kurds, many of these forces had moved to other places -- yemen, somalia. they are very, very well entrenched in north africa and in afghanistan. but as the caliphate itself was crushed and those forces were pushed to the south, the united states and its allies managed to maintain them from keeping a...

Policy and this pullout? >> well, what i fear is that we are looking at the salvation of the islamic state. you have to understand that the islamic state was like a ball of mercury. even though the caliphate had been quashed by the kurds, many of these forces had moved to other places, yemen, somalia. they are very, very well entrenched in northern africa and afghanistan. but as the caliphate itself was crushed and those forces were pushed to the south, the united states and its allies managed to maintain them from keeping a nuke louse that would allow them to reform. donald trump has saved is...