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America trusts on national security. those days are gone. so i don't think he has the same fears that democrats did in the past. >> let's be frank. the public is very wary on the two wars we've waged. look at any polling numbers. they want them to end. i think that works obviously towards hagel's favor. >> john warner saved us from ollie north. maybe he can help hagel get in there. "weekly standard" editor bill kristol has been leading the charge against hagel. why is he doing this and why do people listen to his views on foreign policy? considering how wrong he was on iraq. good question. i t...

>> greg: it doesn't matter we don't need taxes. create the money. print the money, don't take taxes. >> eric: president obama was actually genius in what he did. he said you should try more stimulus. stim sus the way to go for you rather than -- stimulus is the way to go for you, rather than austerity. stay true to the political left. done it before, tried it, not working and he can say this is what i told them to do. not going to cost him a dime. >> kimberly: consistent on the messaging. won't hurt him. >> eric: who is going to pay for the stimulus? who is going to pony up tens or hundreds of...

Spain, italy? >> bob: who is paying for austerity is people out of work. >> eric: germany is paying. >> bob: show me where austerity worked. show me where it worked. >> dana: show where the stimulus worked. >> bob: right here. saved us from a depression and we're 4 million plus jobs better than four years ago. >> kimberly: 15 minutes of a debatable topic. >> dana: we need a white board. >> kimberly: eric? >> eric: we're not 4 million jobs. we're half a million jobs worse than we were. >> bob: since stimulus came out. you are counting the first three days that obama was elected president. >> er...

And added 2.9 million jobs. so the opposite is true of exactly what they're projecting. >> exactly. had it not been for the actions that the president took, we would have been in a deep depression. this president saved us, but they give no credit to him. kantor set the american people don't want this. he is wrong. almost 3:1 the american people are actually say they want job creation. that is more important than deficit reduction right now, and they're right. ed republicans at their peril are going to obstruct putting people to work. i think it's going to cost them the election, they think the...

Air force planes, that would be great news this in seattle. in houston, it's space, in the southwest, west virginia, it's bobby byrd, it was jack murtha in johnstown, pennsylvania. why do people have this disconnect. they know that the government creates jobs, every time in our life, we know that world war ii saved us economically. all our experience is that the government crease jobs and you hear eric cantor with this religious notion of some kind that somehow this belief in small business means the government shouldn't do anything. when small business is the area of the economy that does bes...