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Is this something he made up, or did someone tell him this was the case? so it would require some interviews to get to that point. so i think mark meadows for so many reasons could be a very valuable witness in both the mar-a-lago case and the january 6th case. >> katie, it's friday, been a remarkable week of sort of incremental reveals. but as barbs talking you realize that what's become clear is that this is very active on both sides. sort of going back and forth now with donald trump's legal team in a way that maybe at the beginning they didn't think they'd have to before there was a judge ...

Records, theies espionage account and obstruction of justice do not require proof that documents were classified. i think it's a good talking point that maybe works well with the base. at the end of the day, it's not going to matter in a criminal case against donald trump. >> such a good reminder. i mean, everything that the doj has filed is about national defense information. there really -- it isn't about the classification. but i guess hugh hewitt hasn't read the documents. let me show what hillary clinton had to say about all of this yesterday. >> i don't care what political party you are,...