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Their next meeting, just three weeks hence, on october 15th and 16th. and they've said that they're going to actually start talking seriously. >> substantively, in three -- right? so this is a major shift. >> this is not just a kind of, you know, occasionally, you'll see diplomatic overtures that seem designed to essentially perform some kind of talking with nothing moving forward. this is something different than that? >> well, on top of that, i agree with you, the foreign minister actually said, at the council of foreign relations tonight, when we saw rouhani, he said that there was a goal a...

Weapons, and in fact, they set their next meeting, just three weeks hence, on october 15th and 16th. and they've said that they're going to actually start talking seriously. >> substantively, in three -- right? so this is a major shift. >> this is not just a kind of, you know, occasionally, you'll see diplomatic overtures that seem designed to essentially perform some kind of talking with nothing moving forward. this is something different than that? >> well, on top of that, i agree with you, the foreign minister actually said, at the council of foreign relations tonight, when we saw rouhani, ...

Going to actually start talking seriously. >> substantively, in three -- right? so this is a major shift. >> this is not just a kind of, you know, occasionally, you'll see diplomatic overtures that seem designed to essentially perform some kind of talking with nothing moving forward. this is something different than that? >> well, on top of that, i agree with you, the foreign minister actually said, at the council of foreign relations tonight, when we saw rouhani, he said that there was a goal at this meeting that they would reach an agreement within a year. now, look, the chances, the hurdles...