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Of course, he wore his pants where they would hang low. that's the way hip-hop culture wore their pants. >> very early on, i think advertisers began to understand that hip-hop was sellable. marky mark himself had been seen as a complete outcast. we didn't buy into his cool when he was marky mark and the funky bunch. we saw that as an affront to authentic hip-hop, but calvin klein saw something that we didn't see, which was a broader commercial appeal, that marky mark had some things in him that white audiences would immediately attach themselves to. >> "rolling stone" readers saw an emerging s...

Kim jong-un. there are interesting aspects of that. there are stories of kim jong-un walkg to school, of him listening to music on an mp3 player, of him loving basketball and him not being surrounded by body guards. take a listen to that. was there anything unusual, did he have security? >> no, no. i never saw a body guard or something like this. he came to school by foot. really, he was a boy, a teenager from next door, never saw something -- recognized something special. >> he would walk to school every day? >> yeah, yeah. he came by rocket or something like this -- no, like any other. >> ...

Political prosecution. the typical reaction from msnbc's chris matthews. >> trump i sending a message to his pals like michael cohen and mike flynn, delays pardon if you stay strong. jonah: i have known dinesh for a couple decades. i don't like the course dinesh has taken. i do think he was singled out unjustly for prosecution. but he never applied for a pardon. howie: which is normal justice department procedure. jonah: donald trump saw something on tv and said i'm going pardon that guy. it learned itself to the appearance that he has motives other than correcting an unjust

Political prosecution. the typical reaction from msnbc's chris matthews. >> trump is sending a message to his pals like michael cohen and mike flynn, delays pardon if you stay strong. jonah: i have known dinesh for a couple decades. i don't like the course dinesh has taken. i do think he was singled out unjustly for prosecution. but he never aed for a pardon. howie: which is normal justice department procedure. jonah: donald trump saw something on tv and said i'm going pardon that guy. it learned itself to the appearance that he has motives other than correcting an unjust

President. real quick. >> yes, words matter. michael cohen's office wasn't raided. it was searched pursuant to a search warrant signed by a federal judge. there is not a spy in the trump camp. there is somebody, to matt miller's point, that saw something that bothered them and reported it to law enforcement. then these are not spies and raids. words matter. >> thank you for placing that. we sit here every day. you're hired. when we come back, a firsthand account of the president's state of mind in the first hours after learning that a special counsel had been appointed to investigate him. and ...