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For who he would become from an early age and his mother had a lot to do with this. she was his biggest fan and earliest fan. he was cut out for big things. kobe a hero. he wanted to be a hero. not just to be seen as a hero but to actually be a hero. >> when did you personally recognize -- we all saw a problem in that first debate with mondale in '84. "wall street journal" front page talked about it. did you see something besides what we all saw in terms of failure? >> not in that debate. i saw what everybody else was watching. >> no, at home. >> no. >> did you see something at home that we di...

Like he was from another planet. i never heard him -- you rarely heard him swear. usually telling a joke. i never hear him gossip about anybody. who doesn't gossip about people at work or whatever? not him. he just wouldn't do it. >> what was going on in the room when he was alone? what was ronald reagan like when he was in the room alone? >> and he was guy who, i think, was creating his narrative constantly, his own personal narrative. he was creating particularly in his younger life the template for who he would become from an early age and his mother had a lot to do with this. she was his b...

>> when did you personally recognize -- we all saw a problem in that first debate with mondale in 45e8. "wall street journal" front page talked about it. did you see something besides what we all saw in terms of failure? >> not in that debate. >> at home. >> no. >> did you see something at home that we didn't see in television or public life? >> i must have because i know him much better than everybody else. while i say while he was president i would occasionally get shivers of concern that maybe something is not quite right. might be slightly under the weather. i didn't know what this was. by...

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