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Democrats, a novel defense you say? all, but got weirder from there. a lot weirder. hillary went on to deliver a narrative so complex he could barely follow it but we did. she explained how donald trump and russia teamed up to rob her of her rightful job as president of the united states. >> how did they know what messages to deliver? who told them? who told them? who were they coordinating with or colluding with? there are all the stories about guys over in macedonia who are running these fake news sites. the russians, and my opinion, and based on the intel encounter and tell people i have ta...

How best to weaponize that information unless they had been guided? >> guided by americans? >> guided by americans and guided by people who had polling and data information. >> who is that? >> let me just finish. this is the second and third step. we know that they did that. we understand it. best example, so within one hour, one hour of the "access hollywood" tapes being leaked, within one hour the russians, let's say wikileaks, same thing, dumped the john podesta e-mail. if you've ever read the john podesta e-mails, they are anadine to boredom. they dumped them and began to weaponize them an...

Democratic party. >> what do you mean nothing? >> i mean it was bankrupt, it was on the verge of insolve enlsy, within one hour of the "access hollywood" tapes being leaked, within one hour, the russians, let's say wikileaks, same thing, dumped the jon podesta e-mails. you know, the comey letter which was now we know, partly based on a false memo from the russians. he dump that's on me on october 28th. and i immediately start falling. let's put this on the table. 3 million more votes than the other guy. i never said i was a perfect candidate and i never said i ran perfect campaigns. i don't kn...

You sit there and it looks like a low level cnn operation. >> or a fake newspaper. >> like the denver guardian. >> so the russians, in my opinion, and based on the intel and counter intel, people i've talked to, could not have known how best to weaponize that information unless they had been guided. >> by americans. >> guided by americans and people who had polling and data. >> who is that? >> let me just finish because this is the second and third step. so we know that they did that. we understand it. best example, so within one hour, one hour of the "access hollood" tapes being leaked, withi...

And bill, the gas deal would come under strcrutiny. >> the coincidence that the dnc e-mails came out ever you said that? >> this is conjecture on your part. i have seen opposition research on activities. it is news worthy. it would come out. i had no knowledge wickileaks would hack his e-mails. >> you predicted he would get hit. hillary clinton would get hit. >> i didn't say #wikileaks. >> you said you were talking to assange. >> i said we had an intermediary. i have back channel showeources. do you have them? >> i do. if somebody came to me and said assange, they believe he is a delivery devi...