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Media collusion is they were exposed as using racial language. being anti-somatic, homophobic, which led to on the eve of the democratic national convention, she was fired. that to me was the type of thing -- if you sort of open a window and things are not often the way the appear. if that now a new reality going forward in terms of if the media is not going to do their job, they are going to be more wikileaks in the future? >> well, i surely hope so. >> sean: he has released classified documents generating extreme controv

Unfortunately, those sorts of acts do happen. not with this organization. >> sean: in 2015, the chinese sold millions of personal documents. classified information on individuals who were seeing and working for our government, et cetera. if they don't say anything about china and they selectively choose this, is it to delegitimize donald trump? what is your interpretation on that? >> if you look at what the allegations are, they don't mention wikileaks. the only mention our publicatio publication. our publication had wide uptake by the american people. they are all true. but that's not the all...

What is the line now, the line is that wikileaks changed the results of the election. the editor of wikileaks, we are happy to have credit for exposing corruption and behavior in that clinton team and the dnc. quite happy to accept that. >> sean: was that if your motivation?? to influence the election? what is your motivation? fidelity to truth? >> in ten years with wikileaks, it has been to publish true information that is otherwise unstable. so we are not in competition -- >> sean: so you have no political agenda?

We don't know when. let's imagine, okay, the problem here is that wikileaks published information. what are they saying? wikileaks published true information that the american public read, that information was the words of hillary clinton. her campaign manager, john podesta and other people in her campaign. and the american public read that information. true information. and it said, we don't like these people.n and then voted accordingly.li what they want to do instead is conflate our publication of true information with, say, hacking or alleged hacking. from vote counting machines.

Fundamental. which is that the amount of investments for a clinton campaign, the portion to the degree that the establishment thought she would lose.o and she was aggressively projecting that she would be the inevitable winner. she was about five -- ten points, if they thought she was going to lose, maybe she would have gotten different results. >> sean: it's a very interesting post election. didn't even happen immediately. but the narrative has begun that in fact the u.s. government is accusing wikileaks and having received materials from russia and russian cyber criminals with the political ...