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Attorney general and the thing his boss donald trump really likes and how do we know that? because that boss has frequently let fly with his own tirades against jeff sessions. jake? >> all right. tom foreman, thank you. this is the top law enforcement officer in the country. joining in to a degree, wasn't chanting and saying lock her up. does that bother you at all? >> yeah. it is an awkward moment on stage when you're faced with that. people may differ in the ways they deal with it and an opportunity to say, hey, i understand what you're referencing and i understand your concerns about it a...

What they have to do, it's just crazy. i think that's likely to be the tone throughout this and the debate, the real debate is going to be inside the democratic party. and it's not necessarily going to be about this position itself. it's all positioning. , i think, for 2020. abby: obviously the supreme court ignited this division in this country and the hate that we have seen going on for a while now. now it is at a level that i have not seen before. and everyone is, you know, pointing a fingers who is to blame for this. that conversation was had last night ben shapiro and bill maher itself. t...

And say that is a bridge too far? >> the only person that knows the answer to that and doesn't know it right now is donald trump. i mean do you think donald trump knows two hours before he's going to say what he's going to say? >> he's in the rally setting that's going to lead him most likely to say something abhorrent to use the word of the day. they're outside that saying lock her up. that's when he gets himself in trouble. at the same time, this was really too far. and while he is a man that does not ever and he also knows how to separate himself from people. so i see those tensions and i a...

Evidence comes forward, it will never happen. so then you'll have a presidency where there is no accountability. and as president trump said during the campaign, and he was very, very clear when he talked about hillary clinton saying lock her up, him along with flynn, they said that nobody is above the law. and they are absolutely right. there's another thing. one of the reasons why we want to bring everybody in, the deputy attorney general, and i know rod rosenstein because he served here in maryland for over ten years as our u.s. attorney. but, rachel, we've got sessions who says that he rec...

Mueller entirely trying to bring this into the court of public opinion saying what mueller did was unlawful because he went around the transition team, and the reason is because he did not trust them to hand over all of the relevant e-mails and he thought some would be deleted because that's what that the transition team with the lawyers would have done and they would have sorted out -- >> you mean the way hillary clinton sorted out what was private e-mails that were the source of trump saying lock her up. >> that's what they wanted to do. >> how interesting. and they are upset their e-mails h...